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Although I'm not sure that's a *bad* thing in this case. The whole 'but I didn't *know* that she was ill and that bullying her and attacking her would kill her' excuse is just...skin crawly.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/4604834.stm

Taking the piss.

Date: 2006-01-12 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wyrdness.livejournal.com
I think it would be a good thing for them to be punished. I would hope that maybe they wouldn't do it again. If they win their appeal then it's a bit like saying that it's alright to go around tormenting other people and making their life living hells.

Date: 2006-01-12 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reindeerflotila.livejournal.com
first off i notice spelling error, secondly, there are consequences to your actions, in this case a fairly improbable consequencew. Nonethless they made the decision to attack the group of girls and thus the result of their decision was the death of this girl. Punish them fully. Sucks to be them, but frankly, they are not the dead ones.

Date: 2006-01-12 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madwitch.livejournal.com
Which was my point. It was a much longer rant at first, but it got a bit out of control, sarcastic and incoherent.

Convictions are unsafe. Really? So people shouldn't be punished for intimidating and attacking someone to the point that their heart gives out? In which sicko reality?

Sorry, rant coming through again...:)

Date: 2006-01-12 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madwitch.livejournal.com
Exactly.

I lose the power to think clearly over this and am reduced to ranting and frothing at the mouth.

Date: 2006-01-12 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterdreamer.livejournal.com
i started off angry mood status change RAGE!
i would very much like to be introduced to the gang of 7 thugs so i could debate it with them.

Date: 2006-01-12 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wyrdness.livejournal.com
Oh yes, feel free to rant, I might do so myself except I don't think I could formulate coherent sentences if I did. I just wanted to show my agreement with you really :)

Date: 2006-01-12 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madwitch.livejournal.com
Or possibly chat to the solicitors. After all, they'll have told the girls to take this line...

Date: 2006-01-12 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterdreamer.livejournal.com
you misunderstood my intentions of method of debate.
i despise bullying
i despise gangs attacking people
i am furious that a girl should die because of it.
there are NO accptable excusses.

The only person i'm happy to accept small gangs such as that attacking or trying to bully is me. and i do believe in making examples.

Date: 2006-01-12 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterdreamer.livejournal.com
sorry 3 thugs not 7 i've just reread. i appear to be crap and unable to read.

Date: 2006-01-12 03:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] malakite.livejournal.com
Not only do the girls deserve what they got, but the solicitors deserve a good Smiting. It's times like this I wish I dearly did have a flaming sword or was actually a Malakite. Smite them all and let God sort them out.

Date: 2006-01-12 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madwitch.livejournal.com
Oh no, I think I got it.

It's never acceptable.

Date: 2006-01-12 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] commlal.livejournal.com
The attack was sever enough for older lads ON MOTERBIKES had to intervine and help the girls get away, which means it must have been terrifying for them. Regardless of weather or not the girl had a heart condition, that sort of behaviour is wrong.

They assalted someone, they have admitted to that, so they should do the time. Sorry, tough luck, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

Date: 2006-01-12 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madwitch.livejournal.com
Flaming swords are often the best way forward.

Wonder why people keep persisting in thinking angels are nice fluffy things?

Date: 2006-01-12 03:53 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-01-12 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterdreamer.livejournal.com
i think they should do Significantly more time than they are!

Date: 2006-01-12 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madwitch.livejournal.com
Yup.

So, we disguise ourselves as the appeal judges and make sure of this? :)

Date: 2006-01-12 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterdreamer.livejournal.com
Hoorah for poncy wigs :) :)

Appeals can always extend the sentence rememeber.

Date: 2006-01-12 04:41 pm (UTC)
ext_37993: (Default)
From: [identity profile] malakite.livejournal.com
Yep, that they are. That's why I want one. Lightsabers may be cool, but flaming swords are traditional.

Because part of the West's cultural baggage has smiling people with white fluffy wings being helpful? Oh, and this thing called the New Testament might have something to do with it?

Me, I was always an Old Testament fan...

Date: 2006-01-12 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madwitch.livejournal.com
Well yes. 'Hmm, that city needs destroying. I know, I'll send an Angel'. *smite, smite, reduce city to rubble*.

Very helpful if you were planning some major rebuilding works but just couldn't work out where to start. Of course, you may be dead, which can put a real crimp in your day, but still...

Reading the script

Date: 2006-01-12 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lapinenoireuk.livejournal.com
"........ and, therefore, it is the judgment of this summary "drum head" court martial that you be taken from this place to a place of execution and there hung by the neck until you are dead. There will be no appeal accepted! Good Day and thank you for your attendance."

Okay that's the lawyers dealt with (evil grin)

Date: 2006-01-13 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sea-of-flame.livejournal.com
'but I didn't *know* that she was ill and that bullying her and attacking her would kill her'

*mutters*

Of course you didn't, you loathsome brat. If you had, it would have probably been grounds for murder, rather than manslaughter...

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